A long time ago on a planet so bare, some water and dirt got mixed up in the air. Some sand and some rocks make it just right, the stage was all set in the deep of the night. A bolt of white lightning, a great peal of thunder, and suddenly there was a marvellous wonder. The rocks yielded metal, and the sand turned to glass, and as the years flew a new thing came to pass. The metal formed gears, the glass a watch face, and little by little things fell into place. The parts came together just like a good rhyme. With ticks, and with tocks, and with hands that tell time. A beautiful watch began ticking one day, formed all by itself in a wonderful way.
Ridiculous story, you say with a grin, Impossible, laughable, surely a sin! A watch needs a watchmaker, that’s plain to see. A designer and builder that makes it for me.
Now, all life is made of some interesting stuff. Cells of all shapes, like blobs filled with fluff. But looks are deceiving, and what we find there, are factories, and highways, and gadgets to spare. Assembly lines, robots, electrical cable, libraries, software, just look, if you’re able. The marvels we see with a microscope stare make a watch look so simple, we dare not compare.
Now, the doctors from Oxford say cells came by chance. From goo, down to you, in a beautiful dance. What’s wrong with their thinking, to have such odd notions? That cells could just happen, from dirt and warm oceans?
A cell and its wonders amaze all who see, and a cell, like a watch, by chance could not be. Those cells can build hummingbirds, agile and free. Bumblebees, snails, my back yard oak tree. A woodpecker built with a jack hammer nose, a lightning bug, monkeys, and beautiful rose. And beetles with bombs that give frogs a surprise, it can make chameleons with camouflage, and some weird eyes. All nature on Earth is so perfectly fine, we have to admit that it’s all by design. And our maker owns everything, both great and small, he is the masterful watchmaker, and Lord over all.
This is called the Watchmaker Theory. Let’s see how many can come up with a good argument against that. I’m guessing none. Accept it, atheists.
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Atheists, What Do You Think Of This?
Posted on 03 June 2011.
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While I am personally not an atheist, may I suggest you get a copy of Richard Dawkins’s The Selfish Gene and The Blind Watchmaker. You might also enjoy a good university class on Evolution. Loren Eiseley’s The Immense Journey is a master piece I can recommend. The design agument is a good one. It is one of many common ones. The examples you bring up are excellent. The issue is very complex, however, and needs to be carefully examined from lots of perspectives. Most of us can be very naive. Please keep your love of God alive and your dedication to all that is Good, to propel you into a life of service. And, fill your mind with truth, all truth, from wherever it comes from. You only have to believe the truth. Sometimes the seeming battle between science and religion is like two different teams playing two different sports, one is playing football and the other is playing basketball. Learn to play both. There is so much to learn and so much more to know about this world.
It’s a cute nursery rhyme, but bears no resemblance to an actual theory, or even a remotely coherent argument worth discussing.
Why don’t you try taking a Science 101 class & start to learn & read something really amazing? Ur a moron & so is your fable god!
Holy uninteresting wall of religious propaganda.
You are awesome. John 3:16 God Bless
Is your question in that wall of text somewhere?
The odds are better than the Bible being true.
I’d love to see you explain what you just posted, in your own words.
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not the evolution of the watch again.
here’s the deal – the watch has evolution. as it started with observation, then big stone things, then smaller stone things, the gears, then digital. nothing just falls in place, it develops over time and the stuff that doesn’t work doesn’t survive.
each thing that is made has to survive, and if it doesn’t have what it takes it dies. the ones that do have evolved, it lived.
the creation theory is even dumber.
Rather than belive in evolution you want us to belive that God, created the Garden of Eden 6,000 years ago when Eve and Adam lived happily together with the dinosaurs until she bit the apple, and things took a turn for the worse – Then God realized he screwed up (She makes mistakes!) So God told Noah – “put all the animals in the ark so I can flood the planet, kill everyone, start all over again and do it right this time?”
Something which is designed does indeed need a designer. But is the earth designed? You’re assuming this is the case without providing evidence for it – except what most creationists do, which can be summarized as following:
Stuff looks complicated. Therefore, God did it.
There is actually an entire book devoted to refuting the specific analogy that you copy pasted. It is called “The Blind Watchmaker”. I suggest you read it.
To summarize the book: apparent design does not imply a design. We are used to seeing things being designed, so it seems logical to believe that all things were designed. Nothing in evolution has to do with chance: you have random chance in mutations filtered by non random natural selection.
No biologist states that cells came about from chance. They state that one of a variety of self replicating proteins came about by chance. The formation of any of such proteins is not particularly unlikely, given correct physical conditions. Those self replicating proteins became more complex organisms, like single celled organisms, through evolution via natural selection
The book has several great chapters explaining the difference.
Since you just cut and pasted, I will do the same.
This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, ‘This is an interesting world I find myself in – an interesting hole I find myself in – fits me rather neatly, doesn’t it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!’ This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it’s still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything’s going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise.
It makes me sad that people are so credulous and logically inept that they do not instantly see the gaping holes in the watchmaker argument. You are either a Poe or you lack the ability to think rationally. Either way, it saddens me.
So true. Of course your argument will be dismissed because “its illogical.” Oh and Richard Dawkins is perhaps one of the most misinformed people on the planet. His technique (as is the technique of a lot of atheists) is ridicule. Because you know that’s SO logical right?
When people have a first-hand witness of a divine experience, atheists say its not enough. Using this logic, why then do they believe those people who witnessed, let’s say, a murder in court? Both are simply individual accounts.
How long before atheists dismiss eye-witness accounts in court too? Looks like criminal is a very bright profession for many if atheists show up for jury duty.
Finally, I have yet to see any accomplishment(s) by an atheist that their theistic counterpart hasn’t accomplished as well. Aside from theories “debunking” God I have yet to see any..yet they claim superiority. Amusing.
Wall of text contains drivel refuted many years ago.
Watches are not biological entities.
Biological entitites are stable forms of organic component parts that are replicators which allows for natural selection. See: Crane vs skyhook.
The whole watchmaker thing is nonsense. Watchmakers didn’t just invent watches from scratch. The technology and social and cultural ideas that resulted in a watch are themselves results of selection processes for thousands of years. You can’t have a watch without a gear. You can’t have a gear without a wheel. You also have to have the concept of time, of hours and minutes and the desire to record it accurately. The most usefulness to get out of the watchmaker analogy is to consider how the ideas of all the component parts evolved over tens of thousands of years before resulting in a watch. It’s not quite the same thing as biological evolution but memetic evolution is a heck of a lot closer to the truth than the drivel in the question.
Henry Ford is credited with all sorts of things but really all he did was improve on some old ideas.